| Article of the Month - March 2019 | 
		Working with FIG for 25 years on socio-economic 
		innovations  
		FIG Honorary Ambassador Clarissa Augustinus, 
		  
		(former head of UN-Habitat/GLTN) 
		
		
		Clarissa Augustinus
		
			
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		SUMMARY 
		This article of the month is a speech by FIG Honorary Ambassador 
		Clarissa Augustinus presented at the FIG 140 Year Anniversary and 
		Handover Event in November 2018. The event was held jointly with 
		Technical Chamber of Greece High Level International Inter-Disciplinary 
		Conference, TUFE.   
		Clarissa Augustinus has been working together with FIG since 1993 as 
		an academic, public figure and a partner in her capacity as leader of 
		the UN-Habitat/Global Land Tool Network (GLTN) and this speech is a 
		special insight and personal journey through her work in the field of 
		land administration and surveying together with FIG. This presentation 
		will hopefully also give some ideas on how to bring about change through 
		collaboration at national and global levels.  
		CLARISSA AUGUSTINUS – PRESENTATION AT FIG 140 YEAR ANNIVERSARY AND 
		HAND OVER EVENT 
		It is a great honor to be invited to speak at this important event. I 
		am not a land surveyor, I am a social scientist, but 25 years ago land 
		surveyors invited me into their world and I am still part of it. Thank 
		you. I had no idea 25 years ago that one day I would be awarded the 
		title of FIG Honorary Ambassador, by FIG President Chryssy Potsiou, 
		during the 2015 FIG Working Week in Sofia, Bulgaria. I was the 
		first-ever person to receive the title. It was given because of my 
		contribution to the global land surveying industry while leading the 
		United Nations UN-Habitat facilitated Global Land Tool Network. Partners 
		in the work of the network, with FIG playing a prominent role from the 
		beginning in 2006, jointly developed innovative land tools. Receiving 
		such an honor from FIG was a personal highlight in my career. In this 
		speech I will describe some of the details as to why FIG honored me in 
		this way.
		The opening session of this conference set the bar high for us. We 
		all have a role working out how to address climate change in our 
		generation. I am going to talk about how professionals can collaborate 
		to address this issue. This presentation will hopefully give some ideas 
		on how to bring about change through collaboration at national and 
		global levels.
		
		 Clarissa Augustinus to the right at the celebration of FIG 140 year anniversary and hand over event with Chryssy Potsiou, FIG President 2015-18 and Rudolf Staiger, FIG President 2019-22.
		Clarissa Augustinus to the right at the celebration of FIG 140 year anniversary and hand over event with Chryssy Potsiou, FIG President 2015-18 and Rudolf Staiger, FIG President 2019-22. 
		A journey in land administration and surveying
		The story I am going to describe is about how pro poor land 
		administration was not on the global agenda 25 years ago – but it is now 
		front and center. How fit for purpose land administration is now a 
		common agenda and we are starting to cover the 70 percent of people in 
		developing countries who are without land documents. And FIG was the key 
		to make this happen.
		The story of my work with FIG over the last 25 years shows you how 
		FIG leaders all stand on the shoulders of the giants of their 
		predecessors and hand on the baton. However, it is also the story of how 
		global socio-economic innovation can take place using soft systems 
		thinking based on Checkland (1981) and Ortiz (2013) about organizational 
		theories of change. This approach emerged over time as the change model 
		used by the Global Land Tool Network (GLTN) partners, including FIG, to 
		catalyze change and develop new tools. The story starts before GLTN and 
		then blossoms and becomes stronger and stronger as GLTN matures. 
		The GLTN change model was all about catalytic levers of change that 
		can be used to influence complex situations such as global history and 
		land. These catalytic levers include: ‘moments’ or events where ‘shared 
		meaning’ is created iteratively through a contested or uncontested 
		re-patterning of conversational themes between increasingly diverse 
		actors; ‘champions’ to engage in and lead debates; ‘communicative 
		interaction’ where dialogue and re-negotiation between different parties 
		takes place and ‘shared messages’ are created; and ‘capacity building’ 
		as a catalytic activity to solve problems. Finally, there is the 
		creation of specific ‘intellectual devices’ such as the land tools, 
		which are catalytic levers for the conscious exploration and 
		understanding of a situation and as part of the way to solve problems. 
		As you listen to my history as an academic, a public figure and a 
		partner you should hear all these catalytic levers at play and how they 
		were part of the GLTN-FIG history of engagement.
		Land administration and surveying in Africa
		In 1993 South Africa became a majority ruled country. I was awarded a 
		survey industry grant, by the South African land surveyors, to 
		investigate the kind of changes in the land registration system that the 
		new majority government would want. I had met Professor John McLaughlin, 
		a leading land administration thinker, when he was a visiting professor 
		to the Land Surveying Department, University of KwaZulu-Natal in the 
		1980s. In 1993 he advised Professor Herman van Gysen of the 
		KwaZulu-Natal Land Surveying Department that I might be able to help 
		support the industry during a time of large-scale social change in South 
		Africa. These are examples of how leaders, champions and thinkers in 
		land administration can play a critical role in supporting the industry 
		to move an agenda forward. 
		My research, to assess the range of options for the industry, was done 
		working with the South African and Namibian land surveyors. Namibian 
		land surveyors were still part of the South African Council at that 
		time. It also involved holding closed workshops for land surveyors to 
		re-think their options. This was my first exposure to land surveying and 
		it was a huge learning curve for me – it's a complex subject. We 
		contacted the FIG office, and Peter Dale who was President at that time, 
		to ask for support. In a pre-Google age with no access to international 
		land administration documents, Peter Dales GUIDELINES FOR THE 
		IMPROVEMENT OF LAND REGISTRATION AND LAND INFORMATION SYSTEMS IN 
		DEVELOPING COUNTRIES, produced under the auspices of UN-Habitat in 1990, 
		was a goldmine. I learned so much from it. I read about the work that 
		had been done around the globe to fix land administration systems in 
		developing countries. 
		It was during this work for the industry that we first developed a 
		socio-economic innovation and new way of approaching land 
		administration. In simple terms, we found that the South African 
		cadaster set up during apartheid was not fit for purpose and it could 
		not serve the majority of the population. I worked with the industry to 
		find solutions to make land administration pro poor yet inter-operable 
		with the national system. Approaches included adapting the land 
		information system, moving away from freehold as the only option to a 
		continuum of land rights, upgrading informal settlements and bringing 
		them incrementally into the land administration system, and the 
		development of new approaches to decentralized land registration among 
		other things.  As you can imagine many of the South African land 
		surveyors were quite uncomfortable with the new ideas but some of them 
		supported the ideas.
		However, people felt about the ideas, the solutions we developed were 
		very robust. The work went into law. In South Africa it underpinned the 
		Development Facilitation Act of 1995 to deliver a million houses. In 
		Namibia it underpinned the Flexible Land Tenure Act of 2012 for 
		formalizing land rights in informal settlement. This demonstrates the 
		importance of innovative approaches to land administration for newly 
		emerging democracies.
		Land administration and surveying in a global perspective 
		I presented my findings to the global land industry at a FIG meeting and 
		international conference in Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada. There I 
		met some of the global FIG leadership for the first time. And I met with 
		John McLaughlin again – the man that who had kick started my career in 
		land administration. The FIG leadership gave me extremely positive 
		feedback on my presentation about how land administration needed to 
		serve the majority. This was my very first opportunity to be part of an 
		international conversation about land administration with people from 
		all over the world. I can really say that it was FIG that launched my 
		international career.
		I was later privileged to go to the Cambridge National Mapping 
		conference where I heard Peter Dale speak. I remember being inspired 
		about the role of the land surveying industry and the historical role of 
		FIG as global leaders. I also remember him saying that he as President 
		was “standing on the shoulders of giants”. Over the next 25 years I came 
		to understand just what that meant in terms of the way FIG mentors and 
		elects giants and that they build on the foundations laid by their 
		predecessors. I also came to value this behavior in a GLTN partner.
		I was privileged to meet and have informative discussions with other FIG 
		global leaders in the 1990s, people like Don Grant, Ian Williamson, Dick 
		Groot, Bill Robertson, Paul van der Molen, Paul Munro-Faure, Jaap 
		Zeverbergen, Chrit Lemmen, Peter Byrne and others. Later in my academic 
		career I even got to write academic peer reviewed journal papers with 
		some of them and they all listened to my ideas about the need for pro 
		poor land administration approaches.
		As an academic I attended many FIG meetings and in the pre-google age I 
		would carry home papers by the suit-case load for myself and my students 
		to study and try and work out how to fix our land administration 
		systems.
		At a FIG meeting in Harare in the early 1990s FIG brought together the 
		head of land in FAO, Jim Riddell and my predecessor in UN-Habitat, 
		Sylvie Lacroux. These are the 2 major UN agencies in the UN system 
		dealing with land. Jim was the rural focal point for land in the UN 
		system and Sylvie the urban focal point. Yet, this was the first time 
		they had ever met or even had a conversation. FIG by bringing them 
		together was certainly ahead of its time in terms of building 
		partnerships. I was fascinated to hear for the first time in a 
		conference about land and human rights, particularly housing rights and 
		women’s land rights.
		At the FIG meeting in Buenos Aires in 1996 – where I was promoting 
		Ikusasa, an international land conference being held in Durban, South 
		Africa, I met all the chairs of the different commissions for the first 
		time. I was struck by the depth and range of technical knowledge linked 
		to land and their passion for their subjects as I met each in turn.
		
		At Sun City, South Africa, in 1998, Chrit Lemmen and I connected. He 
		shared with me recently that Sun City was the light bulb moment for him 
		when he started to understand that pro poor land administration 
		approaches were needed. When I joined the UN, he and I worked 
		extensively over the next 20 years on the Social Tenure Domain Model – 
		but more about that later.
		All the FIG leaders I had been meeting were men. At that point FIG was 
		working hard to get connected with the UN and Ian Williamson’s paper on 
		the Bogor Declaration tells that history. FIG wanted to hold a joint 
		meeting with the UN. The UN wanted FIG to have women in their 
		delegation. FIG invited me to be part of their delegation giving me an 
		opportunity of a life-time to join global inter-governmental 
		discussions. I was invited to the UN-FIG Inter-Regional Meeting of 
		Experts on the Cadaster, which developed the Bogor Declaration in 1996. 
		This was my first exposure to land departments from Asia, including 
		China. I began to have an increasing understanding of the importance of 
		global meetings and the issue of land administration and this would lay 
		a foundation for my own work once I joined the UN. We all take these 
		global meetings on land administration for granted now because of the 
		foundations FIG laid then. The Bogor meeting was also the foundation 
		stone of what became the much bigger UN-FIG Bathurst meeting but more 
		about that later.
		New ways of thinking and knowledge transfer
		As an academic in a land surveying department I participated in the 
		major changes that happened in South Africa, with all the new thinking, 
		challenges and opportunities of a country freed from apartheid. I was 
		running an M.Sc. program for mature surveyors from sub Saharan Africa. 
		We used the many FIG and other papers I had brought home from 
		conferences to try and work out how to make cadastral systems in Africa 
		more effective and efficient. We identified key gaps in the land tools 
		needed to deliver land administration for the majority of the population 
		and the poor. These became the initial list of GLTN land tools and 
		agenda when GLTN was started. 
		Also, out of these discussions emerged new thinking about what were 
		better options for sub-Saharan Africa. In 1998 I was asked by the UN 
		Economic Commission for Africa to produce a background paper for an 
		Expert Group Meeting on the cadastre and GIS/LIS and the creation of 
		geo-information for decision-makers. My paper challenged the use of 
		unique parcels as the basic unit of data collection and proposed that a 
		range of spatial units should be used as identifiers. The Surveyor 
		General’s at the meeting were not happy with the idea and one of them 
		called me a revolutionary. Essentially that document became a 
		foundational framework for what is known today as the Social Tenure 
		Domain Model, a pro-poor GIS for all different types of tenures, which 
		FIG has been deeply engaged with developing starting from 2006 up to 
		today. But more about that later.
		Using this thinking about moving away from parcels as the only option, I 
		attended the meeting that created the UN-FIG Bathurst Declaration on 
		Land Administration and Sustainable Development in 1999. FIG had called 
		together the top thinkers from the global land industry to work out a 
		way forward for effective and efficient land administration that would 
		underpin sustainable development and serve a wider group of people. Here 
		I spoke passionately about how we had to move away from unique parcels 
		as the only option for land administration systems and the needs of the 
		poor and introduce pro poor land administration approaches. Professor 
		Stig Enemark, who was later to become FIG President, told me a few years 
		ago that this was the light bulb moment for him, when he realized that 
		new approaches to land administration that could accommodate the poor 
		were needed. 
		Working with United Nations
		In 2003 I joined the United Nations. I became the Chief of the Land 
		Tenure Section. After a while it became clear to me that most developing 
		countries were struggling with their land administration systems. It was 
		not just an African phenomenon, it was a global phenomenon. I took out 
		the agenda of land tools that we had identified as gaps in my Master 
		classes and started talking to partners about it round the world. The 
		gaps were all large-scale land administration tools. I remember Klaus 
		Deininger at the World Bank arranging for me to talk to the Land 
		Thematic Group of the World Bank probably in 2005. Gaps they identified 
		became incorporated in the GLTN agenda. Swedish Aid had found the gaps 
		and were prepared, with Norway, to put in funds towards tool 
		development.
		As a part of the preparation for the start of the Global Land Tool 
		Network, FIG Paul van der Molen, as Chair of Commission 7 on Cadastre 
		and Land Management, with UN-Habitat held two critical events, one in 
		Asia and the other in Africa in 2005. The meetings promoted to potential 
		GLTN partners the emerging thinking around the fact that we needed to 
		develop a network of partners working on creating these 18 missing 
		tools. Potential partners talked about the tool agenda and how partners 
		were working in silos – with a major division between technical people 
		on the one hand and the policy people on the other hand and that we 
		needed to work together to develop optimal solutions.
		The Global Land Tool Network was officially launched at the World Urban 
		Forum in Vancouver in 2006. And FIG was there at the outset. Professor 
		Holger Magel was on the panel of partners at the very first GLTN 
		networking event in Vancouver in 2006. The first partner meeting was 
		held in Bergen in Norway in 2007 and Stig Enemark was present along with 
		other global land partners such as the Huairou Commission, the Norwegian 
		Refugee Council, organizations that FIG had never met with before. This 
		is an example of how FIG Presidents hand on the baton to each other as 
		Stig Enemark had taken over partnering with GLTN from Holger Magel – 
		this is so important to stable partnerships. We got agreement that as 
		partners we were going to work on the 18 GLTN land tools that were 
		missing which would make land administration able to reach the majority 
		of people in the world. A huge ambition. I privately thought it would 
		take us 40 years but miraculously most of them have been completed by 
		2018 – 12 years - because of the dedication and hard work of partners 
		over many years and donors predictably putting money on the table.
		The next watershed moment was a speech-cum-debate I gave at a FIG 
		meeting in Accra, Ghana in 2006. One of the 18 missing GLTN tools was a 
		pro poor GIS which was not based on unique parcels alone, but which was 
		to be inter-operable with national systems. The Accra meeting included a 
		plenary session that was a set of speeches and a debate between myself 
		and Chrit Lemmen about this issue. At that time, he was starting his 
		thinking about the Land Administration Domain Model and trying to decide 
		if it could accommodate the whole range of land tenure types found. I 
		used all the thinking that I had done 9 years previously for the UNECA 
		paper on GIS/LIS and argued that unique polygons or parcels were not 
		sufficient on their own and that additional forms of spatial units had 
		to be introduced into LIS/GIS systems also to accommodate the different 
		tenure types. I think Chrit was convinced, and certainly many Africans 
		in the audience were convinced.
		The next step along the road was an UN-Habitat Governing Council meeting 
		in 2007 in Nairobi and Stig Enemark, now FIG President, and Chris Paresi 
		of ITC attended. The three of us sat down and we said OK we are going to 
		develop this pro poor GIS, we do not know how, but we have the vision. 
		GLTN would put up the funds, ITC would ask Chrit Lemmen to do the job as 
		part of his Ph.D and FIG would lend their brand, leadership and their 
		intellectual capacity. Well it took us at least 5 years, if not more, to 
		get to a public product. That is, 14 years from conceptualization to the 
		first proto type. 
		Solomon Haile, and then Danilo Antonio, both land surveyors, led on the 
		development of STDM from GLTN side. John Gitau and Solomon Njogu, Kenyan 
		land surveyors and coders, who became part of GLTN, ultimately built the 
		STDM software we know today. These are the people that made it happen 
		and scale up. The Social Tenure Domain Model or STDM, as it became 
		known, was initially only a model. Chrit developed the Land 
		Administration Domain Model and the Social Tenure Domain Model (STDM) in 
		tandem. These were registered with ISO in I think 2012. The STDM was 
		also then developed into a software and a concept for participatory 
		engagement and use by local communities. FIG undertook a number of 
		reviews of the products and gave space for STDM presentation in many FIG 
		forums. We need to celebrate this work. I must tell you that today it is 
		being used all over the world by local communities. It is being used for 
		managing disaster relief after earth quakes; for giving informal 
		settlement residents land certificates, for supporting people to return 
		to their homes in Iraq, to help manage palm oil plantations, for 
		managing illegal high rise buildings, by chiefs managing peri-urban 
		extensions into their customary areas, for monitoring the growth of land 
		value in Congo, for mapping for physical planning by municipalities in 
		Uganda – and even more. 
		
		
		FIG has had a close cooperation with GLTN. Here FIG President Stig 
		Enemark  was in th chair at the GLTN Advisory Board Meeting in 
		2010. Clarissa Augustinus is stting to the left of Stig Enemark.
		FIG and GLTN
		During Stig Enemarks’ presidency we also saw serious support by FIG for 
		the development of what became known as the Gender Evaluation Criteria 
		(GEC). These can be used to assess the gender responsiveness of an 
		existing large-scale land tool or to design one. This tool has been 
		implemented by GLTN partners in over 30 countries, and FIG also 
		participated in the design of the manual on how land professionals can 
		use the GEC. Stig Enemark also made space for GLTN and STDM in FIG 
		events – and this has become a tradition of partnership between GLTN and 
		FIG to this day. I remember speaking at Stig Enemark President Session 
		on STDM with Chrit Lemmen at the FIG Congress in Sydney in 2010.
		Remember I said earlier about FIG presidents standing on the shoulders 
		of giants and handing on the baton to each other. When Teo CheeHai took 
		over from Stig Enemark in 2011, on the day of his election he said to me 
		that he would make STDM a key part of his work program and he did. Teo 
		finished what Stig Enemark had begun. This is exactly the kind of solid 
		predictable partnership that is needed to engage in the long term. Tool 
		development cannot happen overnight – 2, 4, and in the case of STDM, 6-8 
		years is needed to get a robust product. FIG was there at the beginning 
		of the STDM vision and has been on the road every step of the way right 
		up till today under Chryssy. 
		Under Teo’s presidency FIG was also a key partner along with a number of 
		governments in the development of what became known the Costing and 
		Financing of Land Administration Services (CoFLAS). He also made space 
		for high level speeches to the plenary of the FIG Congress in Kuala 
		Lumpur – I remember in a FIG plenary 2014 talking about how land 
		administration is in the critical path of the sustainability of the 
		planet and that we need to continue to innovate and develop new 
		large-scale land tools.
		Teo also decided to support and push another important GLTN tool – the 
		valuation of unregistered land for developing countries. I remember FIG 
		working week in Rome in 2012 as a watershed moment when FIG stepped into 
		the leadership on this one and said “let’s make it happen”. FIG’s brand, 
		intellectual capacity and the support of professionals in FIG Commission 
		9 on valuation and real estate management, was key to getting other 
		partners to buy into the process of developing the tool and for creating 
		a product that the valuation profession considers credible. The chair of 
		this commission, Steve Nystrom, was a key supporter of this work. When 
		we started the work in 2012 some people thought it could not be done but 
		Teo believed it was important. He handed on the baton to Chryssy and it 
		was during her presidency this year – 7 years after we started - that 
		the guidelines on the valuation of unregistered land for developing 
		countries was launched by UN-Habitat, GLTN, FIG and RICS at the FIG 
		Congress in Turkey. At this event Chryssy gave a key note speech drawing 
		from her experience on this issue in developed and emerging countries, 
		emphasizing how important valuation of unregistered land is for 
		countries for economic growth, market development, and urban 
		development.
		This is an example of how handing on the baton between presidents and 
		champions is vital for the successful completion of socio-economic 
		innovations which require years of development. When Chryssy Postiou 
		became FIG President in 2015 she oversaw a range of GLTN tools being 
		further developed and finalized, aside from the valuation of 
		unregistered land. Chryssy Potsiou and Gerda Schennach and I saw STDM 
		being used in a slum in Nairobi where teenage girls with babies on their 
		hips were using it and moving the GIS and its satellite imagery backdrop 
		around with complete ease. They were living in an old quarry and using 
		it to negotiate their land rights with the state. During Chryssy’s 
		presidency FIG has continued to play a major role in the STDM board that 
		runs it today and STDM is a key tool that is used to inspire FIG young 
		surveyors. Also, during Chryssy’s presidency the GLTN guidelines on 
		Fit-for-purpose land administration was launched and has become widely 
		discussed and implemented in a number of countries. Importantly during 
		Chryssy’s Presidency the leadership of GLTN was passed from me to Oumar 
		Sylla and the FIG-GLTN partnership was unbroken and got stronger. Of 
		course, all leaders have people that make things happen and Louise 
		Friis-Hansen played a key role for GLTN’s work with FIG.
		During my ten years as the head of the GLTN Secretariat I was privileged 
		to also work with numerous academics and consultants associated with FIG 
		who supported partners to develop tools. I am thinking of Chrit Lemmen 
		who developed STDM as part of his PhD and worked with Stig Enemark and 
		Robin McLaren on fit for purpose; Jaap Zeverbergen who developed the pro 
		poor land registration approach and worked on land and conflict; Mike 
		Barry who developed the underlying theory for the continuum of land 
		rights and an evaluation framework for the continuum; Diane Dumashie who 
		was key in the development of the Gender Evaluation Criteria; Tony Burns 
		who developed the Costing and Financing of Land Administration Services; 
		Mike McDermott and Matt Myers who developed the valuation of 
		unregistered land; and Rafic Khouri on Muslim women’s land rights. 
		And because this is a very special occasion for Chryssy at the end of 
		her presidency; and because we are here once again being hosted by the 
		Technical Chamber of Greece, I will describe in a bit more detail how 
		Chryssy as an academic linked to FIG helped GLTN to develop an 
		innovative land tool working with FIG as a partner during Stig Enemarks’ 
		Presidency. In 2009 Chryssy worked on giving GLTN direction on how to 
		upgrade informal settlements by undertaking case studies of Greece and 
		Albania. As part of the work an Expert Group Meeting of officials from 
		Greece and Albania was hosted here by the Technical Chamber of Greece. 
		Many countries learnt a lot from Chryssy’s UN-Habitat/GLTN publication 
		on this work. For example, it described how Greece has developed 
		large-scale solutions to address informality and informal development in 
		regard to non-compliance with spatial and urban planning regulations or 
		building permits. It also showed how the role of the private sector in 
		Greece is key in making land management happen in terms of spatial and 
		urban planning, cadastral surveys, rural land consolidation, 
		environmental impact studies and the compilation of general urban plans 
		and urban regeneration studies. Private sector lawyers, notaries, 
		engineers, developers and real estate agents are a critical part of 
		keeping the system moving and working with their government 
		counterparts. Also, I found it very positive that even where spatial 
		plans have not been regularized the municipalities still supply basic 
		services like roads, electricity, telecommunications and water. In many 
		countries I have visited people whose buildings do not fit the plan live 
		in appalling circumstances without basic services. Also, Greece has 
		shown us that land readjustment, termed urban regeneration here in 
		Greece, is a critical tool to manage sustainable urban development. The 
		engagement of the Technical Chamber of Greece in developing facts and 
		figures and a robust understanding and options on urban development 
		shows significant leadership and vision.
		To conclude, I hope that this story has shown you how socio-economic 
		innovation has taken place using a soft system change management 
		approach to solution development using catalytic levers as entry points. 
		Many pro poor land tools were developed because of FIG, its leaders who 
		became champions, its thinkers who developed ‘intellectual devices’ to 
		solve problems, the many FIG events where we discussed and debated 
		issues and created shared meaning and messages; and the knowledge 
		development and capacity development which was shared by FIG with other 
		GLTN partners so that they would become comfortable with land 
		administration. Thank you for listening to my story as an academic, 
		public figure and partner of FIG. It has been a great privilege to have 
		been part of the FIG history for 25 years. 
		 
		
		
		In 2015 Clarissa Augustinus was appointed the first FIG Honorary 
		Ambassador
 for her outstanding work in the land sector and her steady cooperation 
		with FIG for many years.